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If Iran can admit that Iraq may well have hidden WMDs, then surely the majority of those opposed to the war would consider this possibility.

But, of course, in this fantastic distortion of life, logic, and rationality no amount of evidence will satisfy them.

“We found the WMDs”, we’ll say.

“Ha! Your troops planted them there! Therefore this whole war was unjustified! And it’s further proof that AmericaisthesuperterroriststateanditonlywantsIraqioilanddefendsIsraeliinterestsandthewarcriminalsGeorgeBushandSharonareHitlerreincarnated.”

LOL, Gokul - too true! First they cried about the hundreds and thousands of Iraqis who would die in the war - then they said the US will be stuck in a “quagmire” and will face many casualties - then they lamented the non-looting of 170,000 Iraqi artifacts - now they are clinging on to the straw of WMDs.

Did anyone come out and admit they were wrong about the first three issues? no! instead, they silently move on to the next thing they hope can kill Dubya, the man that they all love to hate.

And of course, Iran would be totally unbiased. Did you forget that Iran and Iraq were bitter enemies and waged war on each other for many years?

What else do you EXPECT Iran to say?

Iran fought Iraq doesn’t mean they like the United States any more. It is in Iran’s interests to make the war seem invalid and pointless, since they don’t want to be the next stop for the American troops.

Nobody EXPECTS Iran to say anything - Iran is volunteering information :)

Bah, just keep on trying to convince yourselves that the war was just… I reached your blog searching for Halliburton, and came across this post (http://www.madhoo.com/archives/002241.html) where you seem quite happy to have quelled any conspiracy theories concerning the reasons for war.

Just follow the money, who stands to profit most from the death and destruction? Halliburton is the US Army’s sole supplier of troop services, and a quick look at google new (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=usa&q=halliburton+iraq&btnG=Search+News) will reveal they stand to make billions (http://money.cnn.com/2003/05/11/news/companies/halliburton_iraq/index.htm) “rebuilding” Iraq. And of course Dick Cheney’s ties with the company have no influence on who was awarded the contract.

Yes the media were quick to report on something unworthy as the artifacts, anything to take divert attention from the thousands of civilian deaths.

Thousands of civilian deaths? Says who? If that were true, why isn’t the BBC reporting it? What about the Guardian? What about Salam Pax and his CIVIC? Maybe because the casualties were not as high as the hysterical expectations of some?

People die in war. In Iraq’s case, more people died and would have kept on dying if there was no war, than they died in the war. Another thing about you Halliburton-obsesssed guys seems to be you confuse cause with result. Oh, Bush’s favorite companioes are benefitting because of the war, so they must have started the war because of that. Right? Some twisted logic.

Like I have said some hundreds of times all over my blog, even if there isn’t a shred of eveidence of WMDs, I am already convinced the war was just. The difference between you and me is that I am neither pro- or anti-Bush. I don’t caremuch for him. I am pro-Iraq and I am happy the people can find out what it is to live again. By my criterion, the war has been justified the minute the 200 kids were liberated from their child-prisons - all those mass graves unearthed, including mass graves of kids - all the horror stories of torture, rape and death - all this has justified the war to me ten times over. I really don’t care what Bush and his cronies do.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_14-6-2003_pg4_13
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A39953-2003Jun10?language=printer&content=article
http://www.iraqbodycount.net

To us living in our first world countries it is easy to just pass deaths off as mere statistics. So, do you think the 5 year old who watched his parents die, is going to thank the US for liberating his country? (ok so i made that up as an example, but it’s possible)

The thing is, was war the best/only means to freedom? Were any other options ever contemplated?

Were any other options ever contemplated?

What would you call the 12 years of sanctions and inspections and drama? Wasn’t that enough time for Saddam to come clean if he really had nothing to hide?

how do you come clean if you have nothing to hide? i always though coming clean means confessing to your follies. :huh:

By repeating the sanctions funda ad nauseum, you ignore the basic point. the sanctions did not hurt saddam at all. how could they? they just hurt the iraqi people. saddam kept building more palaces, and his sons kept adding more concubines to their harems. in fact the whole 12 years long sanctions were even more stupid than the war.

Saddam did have stuff to hide. At the end of the Gulf War I, he admitted to the UN that he did have biological and chemical weapons - tons of them - already manufactured. In addition he had other missiles like the Scuds, that were deemed illegal for him to possess anymore. He already had the weapons! He was supposed to prove to the UN that he got rid of them - his coming clean was supposed to be the proof that he destroyed all the weapons he promised to destroy.

I agree sanctions were stupid, but then the UN had the “Oil for food” program, in accordance to which, Saddam was allowed to sell oil and buy necessities like food for his people. Kofi Annan was to personally authorize every purchase Saddam made with the money. Here is a link that will show you how “effectively” the UN managed that.

So, what is next now? Leave the people of Iraq starving under sanctions? Let Saddam off the hook and remove sanctions even though he promised the UN he would do something but so far refused to prove that he did it?

more fun stuff about the “oil for food” program. Of course, Sporting goods are but legitimate basic necessities for a starving people.