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dawood is apparently having a lot of problems in Pakistan. he made the mistake of taking their help a decade ago. criminals today have wisened up. with western countries like Britain and Portugal protecting them on grounds like “if we hand him over to you and he is found guilty, you will give him capital punishment, and we are too evolved to appreciate that”. i was wondering….doesnt portugal have an extradition treaty with the US?

Gaurav, this link was made by the Indian press too. I saw it on rediff, but they have removed that para from their report on the blasts.

How partisan is CNN :angry::angry:

Just went through this link - India’s history of violence

Notice how the word “zealots” is used only along with “Hindu”. But the Muslims are either “militants”(NOT terrorists mind you….only those who kill innocent Americans are terrorists and those who kill innocent non-Americans are militants), and are either “suspected” or “blamed by”.

Gaurav, you are right about the first comment. About the second comment too, you are right in that, everything that happens in India is spun as something to do with the clashes between “majority-Hindu” India and her minority citizens - it irritates me to no end - just like the way every Indo-Pak problem is about “Hindu-majority” India ruled by Hindu nationalists clashing with Pakistan - as if being a secular country versus a country founded for people of certain religion doesn’t make any moral difference at all.

Yazad, I saw on Sameer’s post, a reference to the ASI report - I do admit that there is a possibility that the report could have caused a “few dissatisfied people” to literally blow up, but the whole thing reeks of a lot of methodical planning and pretty high degree of co-ordination to be of a somple communal clash.

Of course, Gaurav - don’t you know that Hindu zealots murder Muslims who defend themselves by turning to militancy - and even that is suspect since India “says so”. Ultimately to most, Hinduism is a pagan religion whose polytheistic followers are inherently inferior to the monotheistic regions’ followers. Only we can be zealots - not them.

There should be a definite attempt by the authorities and the intelligentsia in the next couple of weeks to make sure that this doesn’t trigger another riot….It’s a mind game and has to be met using the same…..The people who did this are neither Hindus nor Muslims…They are inhuman elements with a clever mind aiming for the maximum impact possible….

With regrettable certainty, this terrorist act will spark brutal revenge attacks by Hindu vigilantes. Let’s not kid ourselves… we saw what happened last time. We know what will happen this time.

But I don’t have a damn clue as to what the govt. is doing. Is RAW asleep? What the hell are they doing? Did they capture the suspects responsible for the Mumbai bus bombing several weeks back?

If LeT is involved in any way, the IAF should simply oblierate their training camps. That’s it. End of story. No discussion, no diplomacy, no nonsense.

If the Pakistani military responds, then so be it. India shouldn’t sit by like Israel, hitting one or two terrorists a day and allowing the US to ties its hands behind its back.

Of course, Gaurav - don’t you know that Hindu zealots murder Muslims who defend themselves by turning to militancy - and even that is suspect since India “says so”. Ultimately to most, Hinduism is a pagan religion whose polytheistic followers are inherently inferior to the monotheistic regions’ followers. Only we can be zealots - not them.

Posted by: Shanti on August 25, 2003 09:27 AM

I don’t think it has anything to do with mono- or polytheism. The secular media has no respect for any religion that isn’t politically correct (which Islam is, right now). The monotheistic Israelis have the same complaints as the Hindus (a secular country is fighting barbaric fundamentalist terrorism, and it’s the one that gets blamed). And Israelis are the only ones accused of being “zealots.” Majority-Christian America, which is also a secular state, gets is treated the same way (but less so by American papers, and moreso by foreign news sources like the BBC).

The far left loves Islam because fundamentalist Muslims hate the current capitalist world system, and they adhere to its enemies (and non-fundamentalist Muslims are good props to hide behind, so they can accuse capitalists and freedom-lovers of racism). They want totalitarian communism and therefore they adhere to the enemies of freedom and individual liberty. They love Muslim terrorists because Muslim terrorists are evil, and they hate Hindus because Hindus tend to be non-evil. Anyone who isn’t evil isn’t “subversive” and is therefore “bourgeoise” and needs to be killed. Whether you are killed by secret police or by bombings in your decadent, capitalist shopping bazaars, they don’t care, as long as you bleed.

The blame for any crime always defaults to the nearest group of good people. If Hindus are running a responsible, decent government in India, and Muslims decide to blow something up there, Hindus take the blame. If Palestinian terrorists blow up a bus in Israel, the Israelis take the blame. If Muslim terrorists in Iraq blow up the UN HQ, that’s the fault of America and Israel. If Muslim terrorists from Afghanistan blow up some buildings in America, that’s America’s fault. Why blame us?

Because they hate and want to destroy all that is right and good in the world. It has nothing to do with religious bigotry, and everything to do with reporters’ outlook on the world. They hate all of us, we just have to accept it. I’m sure most of them don’t really think these thoughts consciously, but they reflexively sneer at good people, which is evidence there is something deeper underneath.

You have a point there, Michael - I think it is the deeply-seated anti-establishment anger in the elite journo circles that might have something to do with this. It also seems to be in vogue these days to believe the majority are a bunch of morons and that the minority must be right regardless of what they so - “they are just expressing themselves”.

Bombs as a mention of group “expression”. What a world. Where are the ‘human shields’ for the people of India?

(meant “method” instead of “mention”, of course)

Sebastian - if the people being bombed were the Muslims, I am sure some “shileds” would have come over - of course, the irony of it is that some Indian Muslims went to Iraq as human shields. Apparently, they cared more about the poor Iraqis than their fellow Indians being slaugtered daily in Kashmir and other places.

Shanti, the NPR story on this focused on Ayodha!! Of all things.

Only at the tail end of the segment did they mention possible terror groups that might be responsible. Because, you know, the obvious and intelligent response to Ayodha and the Gujurat riots are more bombs, right? Sigh. I don’t get NPR.

Re: Human shields, Arundhati Roy in a talk in Karachi said if she knew that India was going to bomb Karachi she would be here on the first plane. Likewise so did a number of people over here said they’d go as human shields to bombay if they knew that Pakistan was going to bomb India.

How awful. One feels so helpless at times like these. My deepest condolences to the people of India.

I am quite sure it is SIMI or elements from Lashkar-e-taiba, not Dawood who is behind the 2 attacks in Bombay today. Of course, like we have senin the case of reporting from Israel, the lefty-biased meda, international or homegrown, all refer to IslamoFascist terrorists as ” freedom-fihjters” or other euphemesims, they are never called what they really are - homicidal, cowardly terrorists, who prey upon the innocent!!!