Yeah, they’re sick bastards. Check out this link that gives an insight into the inner workings of the Jehadi mind :

http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP73104

Control + F for “Hindu” ..

This bit in particular is kinda cute :

“The Indian Muslims told us that their manager was a vile Hindu who did not permit them to pray, and that he would arrive shortly”

Ahhh … Indian non-terrorist Muslims decided to have their colleague/boss, the “vile Hindu” , slaughtered because he didn’t let them pray at work. Must be revenge for Godhra or something ..

Oops!! Typo!! That should have been revenge for Gujarat.

fubar, why do I have the suspicion that even if we mandated a break five times a day for prayer and did everything they asked for, the Jehadis would still find something to be pissed off about?

Maybe then their feelings will get hurt because they are being asked to be managed by a “vile Hindu” instead of a devout Muslim like themselves…

The sad thing is that the vast majority of Muslims in India are law-abiding citizens who have no time for the jehadis. The jehadis are vile, vile, vile. There is no justification for their behavior. None. Murderers, plain and simple.

What bothers me is the lack of condemnation of this from all the commentators across West Asia. The Abu Ghraib prison abuse caused so much hand wringing here in America - you’d think that there would be at least half of that somewhere out there.

True, MD - I agree that most of the time the jehadis only use religion as a shield to mask their bloodthirst. What bothers me is that the so-called moderates don’t raise a voice to condemn this. I remember the Mullahs condemning the dismembering of the contractors’ bodies in Fallujah, but not the killings themselves - WTF?

Moe, it is a mistake only if we do it…

As far as the beheadings in Saudi Arabia are concerned - if the terrorists genuinely believed that the Americans would change their policy to save these men, they are incredibly stupid. If they knew America would not change policies, and intended to kill them anyway, that makes them sadists. In either case, it’s absurd to think that American actions cost these men their lives.

I also find it very interesting that while the Saudi police can horsewhip a woman in an instant if she’s not covered from head to toe, they seem to take their sweet time in trying to prevent a pre-meditated murder.

KXB, add to that the fact that the Saudi police were able to kill the leader of the jihadis hours after the beheading - what did they know and when did they know it?

Proof that they are sadistic? How can South Korea pull their troops from Iraq in 24 hours for the life of one hostage? Prepare for more snuff pictures or if we are lucky enough, videos.

How can you lump the entire Arab race with the behavior of certain sadistical, murdering jehadis. And why should moderate Muslims keep vouching their secular credentials at every beheading? I know for a fact most of my Muslim friends condemn such incidents - indeed, only a murderous jehadi could take pleasure in such gruesome and barbaric incidents. I am quite disturbed to see these hate-filled essays consistently from NRIs (Rajeev Srinivasan, Rajiv Malhotra, Dilip D’Souza et al) in effect blaming the Islamic faith for all the ills of mankind. I have seen my own brother who is in the USA go down this slippery slope – he wrote such a vituperative diatribe in his university newspaper against Muslims that totally left me appalled - read it at the below link.(http://www.statepress.com/news/2002/11/20/Opinions/Tolerance.Taken.Too.Far-328213.shtml). Maybe, such writings help NRIs to stand out as model minorities unlike jehadi Moslems, gentrifying African Americans and Latinos.

Sridhar,

Find me the Arab state that allows non-Muslims to worship freely. Find me the Arab leader that says that Jews are a peaceful people and the Jewish faith is a good one, as our Christian President said of Islam after Sept. 11. Find me the Arab newspaper expressing outrage every day at the atrocities committed against their own people, let alone foreigners the way our press has been flogging the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse.

Find me the Arab network that has replayed the Saddam video again and again the way our networks have replayed the Abu Ghraib pictures. Find me the Arab cleric who says that the lines in the Koran saying that a woman should be beaten should not be taken literally. Find me the Arab press that widely publicises his words.

So far, the only news out of the Arab world is one of hate. Hate for the West, hate for the infidels, and most of all, hate for the Jews. Where is the love? Where is the repudiation of violent Islam the way violent Christianity was repudiated during the Reformation. Where is the Islamic charity that gives to the families of dead Israeli children the way American Christian charities give to the Iraqis?

Islam may not be a violent religion, but until there is a public outcry by your moderate Muslim friends against the beheadings, until there is a single rally by Muslims for Israel like the rallies by “Jews for Palestine”, until there is a single major Islamic cleric condemning the murder of non-Muslims by Muslims, why should anyof us believe that Islam is anything but a violent religion?

Sridhar, moe makes a lot of my points for me above. I find it absolutely reasonable to lump most Arabs if not all in the Jehadi mold precisely because they haven’t proved to me otherwise. When the Arab community starts looking at itself and introspects the reasons behind it’s moral collapse, the day the community starts policing itself, there will be no need for people like me and your brother to write “diatribes” against the Arabs.

BTW, where exactly in my post did I rile against Arabs? You are the one equating radical Islams and jehadis with Arabs. Hmmm…

Please spare me the “model minority” crap. I would hate the jihadi Muslims even if I were still in India, or doesn’t the name Kashmir ring a bell for ya? African-Americans don’t say much against Islam because most of them convert to it and Latinos have not been affected by it yet. I cannot claim the same excuses as long as Islamic terrorism is a festering sore on both my birth and adopted countries.

Sridhar,

No doubt, you do not want to be lumped in with the monsters who are committing these acts. It’s not that these acts are committed by Arabs that is so enraging to me, it’s that they are excused by so many otherwise sensible Arabs and their apologists. All the opinion polls coming out of the Arab world mean nothing to me cause no Arab country allows for free and open debate. An uninformed opinion is worthless. Why is that Arab talent has to flourish in America, and not a single Arab country? Plenty of countries - China, India, African nations - have disputes with America, but they are not chopping off heads, blowing up school buses, or crashing planes into buildings.

And I have not come across one Arab who can answer this question, “How come the Arabs can have over 20 countries, but the Jews cannot have one?”

Forget about the jihadis. My question is how do you get time to go out and watch movies with a small infant at home? :huh: It took us more than 9 months after our daughter was born to even think about watching a movie in a theater.:confused:

Parag, three words for you - pumped milk and in-laws - they are only too happy to kick me out so they can have the baby all for themselves :)

yeah I hate all this crap that’s been going on in the world. They all claim it’s for the ‘greater good’ and shit like that and it’s all just a bunch of excuses.

on a lighter note I stumbled upon your site and I love it! I saw HP3 and liked it much better than the first two films. Oh yes and Neel is very cute! :nice:

“I know for a fact most of my Muslim friends condemn such incidents”
Yep, it’s called dissimulation. Token condemnations
(wouldn’t be a stretch to say that such an attitude is ubiquitous in much of the 3rd world), especially when the victims are Jews or Americans. Anyway, I do think it’s incorrect to make the conflation between Arabs and Indian Muslims (though the Muslims who wanted the “vile Hindu” killed were NOT terrorists). There are some pretty liberal Indian Muslims whom I personally know - generally Bohras and Ahmadiyas. Arabs - well, they’re scum. However much I try, I can’t un-dehumanize Arabs. They are bloodthirsty, feral creatures. The blasphemy laws, the Hudood laws, the diatribes against evil Joos in their press, Saudi Arabia actually passing a law that PREVENTS Jews from entering that country, their dumb conspiracy theories (mossad causes 9/11, Jewish “descendants of apes and monkeys” want to control to world), etc. And while we’re at it, where’s the condemnation of the massacres of Negroes by Arab Janjawid militias in Darfur - over a million and counting. Ahh, they must have done that because they’re reeling from the effects of Israeli occupation. Bahh ..

Btw, when did Dilip D’souza indulge in Muslim-bashing? I think you mean Dinesh D’Souza, the most famous brown neocon :) Let the tribe grow ..

Thanks, Anjana :)

Hey guys, lets not get carried away here with the “ALL arabs” are this way or that. There are some very brave dissidents in that part of the world (and you’d have to be with the repressive and thuggish governments of the ME) but surely not all Muslims or Arabs can be lumped together. That was the point Sridhar was trying to make.

That being said, moe makes a lot of good points. I wish there were more dissidents and more moderate Muslims willing to speak out.