October 12, 2004

Today's stuff roundup!

- I think Raj Bhakta is kinda cute in a weird sort of way and am watching the Apprentice to root for him. I don’t know if he will win (Kelly and Kevin seem pretty strong to me), but he does have a good chance. Go Raj, the anti-stereotypical Indian guy!

- I hate Survivor - how can you vote off the one and only eye-candy, Agent Brady? Boo!

- Watched “The Forgotten” over the weekend. Spoilers below, so don’t look unless you wanna know (that rhymes!)…

OK, this was one of those movies that I think as a mom I was supposed to get real moved by and cry buckets in. Unfortunately, I didn’t do so. Here is a brief synopsis - Julianne Moore plays Telly, whose son died in a plane crash 14 months ago. She still loves him and cannot let go, so she keeps seeing a therapist (Gary Sinise). One fine day, all traces of her son in her life start to disappear - pictures in albums, video tapes, etc. She first suspects her husband of doing this to cure her, but turns out her husband doesn’t believe she ever had a son as does her therapist and her ex-babysitter. She finds the dad of a little girl who dies in the crash with his son, but he doesn’t believe he ever had a daughter. (You get all this from the trailer - the spoilers are in the extended entry)

I really liked the premise of the movie and was very prepared to like it when I went to watch. The ending was hokey crap about the bond between a mother and her son being greater and better than evil aliens! Yes, I said evil aliens - don’t even ask! I don’t understand why she was the special mom who didn’t forget and why the other moms promptly forgot their supposedly dead offspring. What is different about Telly? The only thing I can think of is that she actually remembers her pregnancy - how stupid! Every woman remembers that! If this was billed as sentimental pap I would have bought it but thriller, this movie ain’t! Skip it!

Posted by shanti at October 12, 2004 4:31 PM

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Funny, but I kinda think Raj is cute too.

Posted by: MD at October 12, 2004 6:32 PM




I didnt notice a Desi on the apprentice. Is he half Desi ? Which one is he ?
Btw I thought the Desi on the ESPN show was way cool too.

Posted by: Al Mujahid at October 13, 2004 8:43 AM




Ok, I checked. Raj Bhakta’s mom is Irish. That explains his caucasoid features. His dad is an Indian immigrant. I think most people who watch this show probably think that Raj is Italian or from somewhere in Southern Europe.

Posted by: Al Mujahid at October 13, 2004 8:54 AM




MD, I was very undecided about him when I first saw him in his bright red pants and a bow tie but he has won me over now. I think the boy has brains!

Mujahid, I frequent some Apprentice forums where every one knows Raj is an Indian-American (in part). I find it really cool that I can finally root for some one solely because of the shared heritage :)

I haven’t watched the ESPN show - what time is it on? It sure sounds interesting.

Posted by: Shanti at October 13, 2004 9:06 AM




His mixed heritage has not been mentioned on the show, although he did correct one guy who pronounced his name “Rog” for Roger, and he said, “No, it’s Raj” And he did introduce himself in Episode 1 to the receptionist as Raj Bhakta. It is mentioned on the Yahoo site for The Apprentice, and he mentions it on his own personal website. But for a guy who’s half Indian and half Irish, he behaves pretty much like a WASP.

Rhona Mitra, the comely young actress on Boston Legal, is also of mixed parentage. Her dad is a Bengali from Calcutta, while her mom is Irish.

Posted by: KXB at October 13, 2004 9:11 AM




I dont know if the Americans of non South Asian ancestry can pronouce the ‘bh’ in Bhakta. They pronounce the ‘bh’ as ‘b’.
Regarding Rhona Mitra, whats up with all the desi men marrying Irish women. Also why is that the skin tone of Bengalis from India is lighter than the Bangladeshis. Ofcourse I am speaking from anecdotal evidence. Arnt both the Indian Bengalis and the Bangladeshis of the same ethnicity.
Shanti, the Desi guy sadly got booted out in the ESPN show called Dreamjob.

Posted by: Al Mujahid at October 13, 2004 9:44 AM




KXB, I like Raj just because he behaves so different from what you would expect of him. He could be obnoxious if he went overboard with it but right now he is carrying himself pretty well.

Posted by: Shanti at October 13, 2004 9:45 AM




Al,

Speaking from anecodtal evidence as well, the reason Hindu Bengalis may appear lighter than Muslim Bengalis may be that when Bengal came under Muslim rule, the lower castes (darker skinned) were the first to convert. Higher caste Hindus would have less reason to convert, since they did not want to give up any advantages that their caste afforded them.

And it’s not just an Indian-Irish combo, there’s Indian-Italian (the Gandhi family), Indian-Polish (Bollywood actress/model Lisa Ray). In my own social setting, I would say slightly more Indian women have non-Indian partners than Indian men having non-Indian partners. But I do know an Indian guy here in Chicago who married an Irish-American woman.

What I find interesting is the reaction of different populations. As far as inter-ethnic couples are concerned, from my point of view, it seems that the Indian community is a bit more accepting of an Indian guy with a non-Indian wife, while the general American population seems more accepting of Indian wife-non Indian husband.

Posted by: KXB at October 13, 2004 10:00 AM




KXB,
You raise a very interesting issue. The Americans are way more willing to accept an asian woman with a white husband than a white woman with an asian husband. That is one of the reasons why most of the east asian couples consist of white husbands and asian wives.
Indians on the other hand have a much higher rate of indian husbands and white wives than the east asians. Maybe this has to do with the emasculation of the east asian male in the popular culture. Maybe the Indian Males are perceived by the general populace as less ‘feminine’ than the more popular effiminated caricature of the East Asian male.
As for the Indian community being more acceptable of white wives, its probably because of the patriarchial belief of the Indians that the male is the head of the household and the family name is carried on by the son.
For example my female cousins who are married to Hindu Indian American and Spanish American get more hell than the hell I get for marrying a Germanic American. I guess the hell on my marriage is more from my wife’s family who now have to contend with non aryan grandchildren ;)

Posted by: Al Mujahid at October 13, 2004 10:26 AM




correction *acceptable - accepting

Posted by: Al Mujahid at October 13, 2004 10:28 AM




Mujahid, I would have watched the show if the desi guy weer still there…tough luck, I guess.

As for the interesting descussion about East Asian males vs. Indian guys, I think traditionally tall, “dark” and handsome has been a way of describing men who should be lusted after. I think also that Indian men look a lot more like Caucasians in featues than East Asian men do. I wonder if this is why there are more American women willing to marry Indian men. I think this is also probably the reason why there are a lot of American women dating Middle-Eastern men too, if you think about it.

Posted by: Shanti at October 13, 2004 11:22 AM




The Desi guy on ESPN’s Dream Job (winner gets to be anchor of Sportscenter for one year) is still there. His name is Anish Shroff.
Its aired on Tuesdays 9pm Pacific Time — don’t know whether its the same time for the folks out east. They also repeat it a couple of times during the week.

Posted by: Hari at October 13, 2004 12:18 PM




Thanks, Hari - I will check it out. I wonder if he is related to Jackie Shroff :tongue3:

Posted by: Shanti at October 13, 2004 12:21 PM




“I think traditionally tall, “dark” and handsome has been a way of describing men who should be lusted after. ” I can safely say that I have not been lusted after for quite some time.;)

Don’t discount economic status - an Indian doctor will draw far more female attention than an Indian cab-driver.

Posted by: KXB at October 13, 2004 12:50 PM




KXB,
The economic status of East Asians is not much lower (if it all) than the economic status of Indians. So how come more Indian men are marrying white women than East Asian men marrying white women.

Posted by: Al Mujahid at October 13, 2004 1:01 PM




Here’s a link for stats on Inter Racial marriages in Asian Americans
http://www.asian-nation.org/interracial2.shtml

Posted by: Al Mujahid at October 13, 2004 1:10 PM




If I remember right even that Raj guy has an Irish mom. But tell me how did you know what his last name was?

Posted by: Dilip at October 13, 2004 1:27 PM




Should I confess I lurk around in the Raj-specific forums on Apprentice messageboards? Naah!

Posted by: Shanti at October 13, 2004 2:29 PM




Shanti,

As long as you don’t lurk around his house, you should be okay.

Posted by: KXB at October 13, 2004 3:14 PM




If only he lived in Dallas, KXB ;)

Posted by: Shanti at October 13, 2004 3:16 PM




Oh, his mom is Irish. That explains it. I thought maybe he was anglo-indian or kashmiri (not knowing his last name).

Shanti, lurking around apprentice message boards!:tongue3:

PS. Can I host a mela in December? My work schedule should be better by that time.

Posted by: MD at October 13, 2004 6:07 PM




How about the 3rd of December? Would that be good?

Posted by: Shanti at October 13, 2004 7:09 PM




DEc 3 sounds fine.

Posted by: MD at October 15, 2004 1:43 PM




Yea, the Desi guy - Anish on ESPN…he’s cute.

Posted by: Anon at October 25, 2004 1:50 AM




Rotflol! I read this great blog of a writer who lives near Raj in Philly. She says she’s in love with him and wants to know how small they make bowties (for their children!)

Posted by: Rebecca Benner at December 19, 2004 1:09 AM




I have another suggestion as to why men are more inclined to marry non-native/non-indegenous women. [Men correct me if I am wrong…this is from a woman’s perspective].

(1) Men are more “turned on” by women they haven’t SEEN before or aren’t visually used to…moreso than women (all cultures) who seek comfort in the familiarity of their culture (all aspects: behavioral, visual etc).

And for women from (especially) Asian, African Contients, this also means they are less likely to break with the cultural expectations.

Also there is the testosterone that increases levels of aggressiveness, so if men want to marry a non-native women, they are more likely to go through with their plan. Besides, in several cultures it is considered “manly” to do what the heck ever u want regardless of what others think…though this is changing.

Posted by: Ann at March 30, 2005 2:21 PM




:beam: hey hi, you guys- does ANYONE know where Raj Peter Bhakta is now (2007)? does he receive fan mail? any info is good info! thanks my fellow DESI’S!!!:beam::nice:
karuna

Posted by: karuna at June 14, 2007 1:18 AM




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